{"id":2388,"date":"2022-06-15T21:10:07","date_gmt":"2022-06-15T21:10:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/collaborationschool.com\/?page_id=2388"},"modified":"2026-01-16T20:37:03","modified_gmt":"2026-01-16T20:37:03","slug":"thatcword-s1ep12","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/mist.mirasee.com\/collaborationschool\/thatcword-2\/thatcword-s1ep12\/","title":{"rendered":"That C Word Podcast: S1, EP 12"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-page\" data-elementor-id=\"2388\" class=\"elementor elementor-2388\" data-elementor-post-type=\"page\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-610e278 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"610e278\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d8b7247 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"d8b7247\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/mist.mirasee.com\/collaborationschool\/wp-content\/uploads\/elementor\/thumbs\/KL-c-word-ep-12-1024x1024-1-rgaea1vkb9ui59uocpw9lwt4cnktvzktjhdoxia1rk.png\" title=\"KL-c-word-ep-12-1024&#215;1024\" alt=\"KL-c-word-ep-12-1024x1024\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-bd818c0 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"bd818c0\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><em>You\u2019re listening to<\/em><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-98957ff elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"98957ff\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>That <span style=\"color: #c42a32; font-weight: bold;\">C<\/span> Word<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-89892f5 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"89892f5\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h5><b>As a mediator and conflict coach, I help managers and their teams to stop losing sleep over everyday conflict and build more collaborative workplaces.<\/b><\/h5>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ba51555 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"ba51555\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>The Office Of Last Resort<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8fcd797 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"8fcd797\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>In an average workplace, each employee wastes 2.5 hours per week because of workplace tension. That\u2019s because conflict is so stigmatized that even conflict resolution is left as a last resort when it should be the first resort.<\/p><p>My guest today is Patrick Aylward. Patrick started his career as a lawyer and transitioned to work as a mediator and conflict management practitioner with the federal government and has recently written a book called The Collaborative Path. I was particularly excited to chat with Patrick about the idea of shifting towards a collaborative model within the workplace.<\/p><p>Join us as we talk about what that shift means, what typically happens in a workplace these days, transitioning from the adjudicative model vs. the collaborative model and\u2026 that \u2018c\u2019 word.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5e73bed elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"5e73bed\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>About this week\u2019s guest:\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3847d3d elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"3847d3d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Patrick used to be a courtroom lawyer, then spent many years as a mediator, and now is an author on a mission to change the world by creating a global culture of collaboration. His book The Collaborative Path introduces a collaborative model to replace the debate format used for generating decisions and solutions, and even for having conversations. To have both better solutions to situations and stronger relationships among participants, Patrick provides an easy to learn, easy to use 6 step process to change the leadership conversation. Using the collaborative model, we can prevent conflict before it ever begins.<\/p><p>Patrick lives in Prince Edward Island, Canada\u2019s smallest province where he is working on a follow-up book The Collaborator\u2019s Toolbox that will contain tools for everyday use so that people can strengthen their collaborative skills for use at home, at work and in the community.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-014594c elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"014594c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Tune in as we chat about:<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-037c787 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"037c787\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"emoji\" role=\"img\" draggable=\"false\" src=\"https:\/\/s.w.org\/images\/core\/emoji\/17.0.2\/svg\/1f449.svg\" alt=\"\ud83d\udc49\" \/>Shifting workplace culture<\/p><p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"emoji\" role=\"img\" draggable=\"false\" src=\"https:\/\/s.w.org\/images\/core\/emoji\/17.0.2\/svg\/1f449.svg\" alt=\"\ud83d\udc49\" \/>Adjudicative model vs. collaborative model<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-86763b1 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"86763b1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"emoji\" role=\"img\" draggable=\"false\" src=\"https:\/\/s.w.org\/images\/core\/emoji\/17.0.2\/svg\/1f449.svg\" alt=\"\ud83d\udc49\" \/>Conflict resolution<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f16384f elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"f16384f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-50a85e4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"50a85e4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h3><strong>That\u00a0C\u00a0Word<\/strong>\u00a0Season 1 is here (and on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/2LQxu8j8LJdbuXydXzyMRD\">Spotify<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/that-c-word\/id1592711758\">iTunes<\/a>! New episodes available bi-weekly!\u00a0<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"emoji\" role=\"img\" draggable=\"false\" src=\"https:\/\/s.w.org\/images\/core\/emoji\/17.0.2\/svg\/1f447.svg\" alt=\"\ud83d\udc47\" \/><\/h3>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ec0c9c2 elementor-widget elementor-widget-html\" data-id=\"ec0c9c2\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"html.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<iframe style=\"width: 100vw; max-width: 100%; height: 190px;\" src=\"https:\/\/share.zencast.fm\/embed\/episode\/b865fbaa-f27c-4162-af55-2bd3f499bbd1\" width=\"100%\" height=\"190\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless=\"true\"><\/iframe>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7b09a42 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"7b09a42\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8ad67ee elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"8ad67ee\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h5><strong>Get the FREE episode resource:<\/strong><\/h5>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ba74c49 hover-underline elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"ba74c49\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<ul><li aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/mailchi.mp\/be7ed6584cdf\/how-to-create-a-collaborative-workplace-lm-2021-05\">How To Create A Collaborative Workplace- A Step-by-Step Guide<\/a><\/li><\/ul>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2e61743 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"2e61743\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h5><strong>Follow Kirstin Lund and collaborationschool.com<\/strong><\/h5>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a5e50e6 hover-underline elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"a5e50e6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<ul><li aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/kirstin-lund\/\">LinkedIn<\/a><\/li><\/ul>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-69b711c hover-underline elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"69b711c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<ul><li aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/collaborationschool\">Facebook<\/a><\/li><\/ul>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-dc31a42 hover-underline elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"dc31a42\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<ul><li aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/mist.mirasee.com\/collaborationschool\/\">Collaborationschool.com<\/a><\/li><\/ul>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-861cac6 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"861cac6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h5><strong>If you are a new listener to That C Word, I would love to hear from you. Please visit my\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/mist.mirasee.com\/collaborationschool\/contact\/\">Contact Page<\/a>\u00a0and let me know how I can help you today!<\/strong><\/h5>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5907320 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"5907320\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-598f7d0 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"598f7d0\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h3><strong>More from That\u00a0<span style=\"color:#c42a32;\">C<\/span>\u00a0Word, season 1:<\/strong><\/h3>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9b4fed3 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"9b4fed3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c277805 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"c277805\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fa2dc2e e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"fa2dc2e\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element 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