{"id":2204,"date":"2021-12-15T18:24:48","date_gmt":"2021-12-15T18:24:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/collaborationschool.com\/?page_id=2204"},"modified":"2026-01-16T20:29:25","modified_gmt":"2026-01-16T20:29:25","slug":"thatcword-s1ep5","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/mist.mirasee.com\/collaborationschool\/thatcword-2\/thatcword-s1ep5\/","title":{"rendered":"That C Word Podcast: S1, EP 5"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-page\" data-elementor-id=\"2204\" class=\"elementor elementor-2204\" data-elementor-post-type=\"page\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-676373a e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"676373a\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-79a7b47 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"79a7b47\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/mist.mirasee.com\/collaborationschool\/wp-content\/uploads\/elementor\/thumbs\/KL-c-word-ep-5-graphic-with-guest-1-1-rg916j72xk8wef9sf76ngfsf1tgcpnnfj2r6j4zw4w.png\" title=\"KL-c-word-ep-5-graphic-with-guest-1 (1)\" alt=\"KL-c-word-ep-5-graphic-with-guest-1 (1)\" loading=\"lazy\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c90a49a elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"c90a49a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><em>You\u2019re listening to<\/em><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-645f95a elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"645f95a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>That <span style=\"color: #c42a32; font-weight: bold;\">C<\/span> Word<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9323247 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"9323247\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h5><b>As a mediator and conflict coach, I help managers and their teams to stop losing sleep over everyday conflict and build more collaborative workplaces.<\/b><\/h5>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0b3123f elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"0b3123f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Psychologically Unsafe Workplaces: The Perfect Storm<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2c888b6 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"2c888b6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Is your workplace a psychologically safe space? Employers have a duty to ensure their employees are safe. But does this extend beyond physical safety?<\/p><p>The rise in non-physical injury claims is a sign that something bigger may be happening in our workplaces.<\/p><p>Join me and my guest, Patsy MacLean, as we discuss the national standard for psychologically safe workplaces, what you can do to create a psychologically safe workplace, and how a rise in stress-related conflicts is an indication of workplace tension mounting into what Patsy calls \u201ca perfect storm\u201d.<\/p><p>Join us as we talk about psychologically safe workplaces and that \u2018C\u2019 word.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-50f292e elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"50f292e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>About this week\u2019s guest:\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f377b71 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"f377b71\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><em>Patsy has a deep history in the healthcare and judicial systems with over 35 years experience. A primary facet of her work in either field is the underlying care for the people with whom she works. In addition to her robust education and experience in health care and the law, Patsy connects quickly and adeptly with clients and has the ability to create a safe space for clients during what can be challenging and difficult scenarios. Patsy is experienced in being a neutral party in workplace investigations, providing fair and focused counsel for clients. Patsy remains actively engaged in providing mentoring support and wise counsel to HR Atlantic partners, associates and clients.<\/em><\/p><p><em>In addition to her law and nursing degrees, Patsy has a host of training in alternative dispute resolution, mediation and conflict resolution. She is skilled at bringing divergent perspectives together and reconciling high-conflict groups and workplaces with the implementation of tangible, practical tools.<\/em><\/p><p><em>A passionate advocate for mental health, Patsy recognizes the importance of creating safe spaces and cultivating healthy environments within a workplace.<\/em><\/p><p><em>Patsy is actively involved in her community and is past chair of the Criminal Code Review Board, and chair of the Queen Elizabeth Hospital (QEH)Foundation.<\/em><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-61feb51 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"61feb51\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Connect with Patsy on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/patsy-maclean-36357965\/\">LinkedIn<\/a>\u00a0or find her\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/hratlantic.ca\/about\/patsy-maclean-q-c\/\">online<\/a>.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-846ab84 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"846ab84\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Tune in as chat about:<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3c9e809 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"3c9e809\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"emoji\" role=\"img\" draggable=\"false\" src=\"https:\/\/s.w.org\/images\/core\/emoji\/17.0.2\/svg\/1f449.svg\" alt=\"\ud83d\udc49\" \/>How to create a healthy workplace.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4af967e elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"4af967e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"emoji\" role=\"img\" draggable=\"false\" src=\"https:\/\/s.w.org\/images\/core\/emoji\/17.0.2\/svg\/1f449.svg\" alt=\"\ud83d\udc49\" \/> The national standard around psychologically safe workplaces.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f8e9131 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"f8e9131\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"emoji\" role=\"img\" draggable=\"false\" src=\"https:\/\/s.w.org\/images\/core\/emoji\/17.0.2\/svg\/1f449.svg\" alt=\"\ud83d\udc49\" \/>How to the lack of psychological safety impact a workplace and its people, how it can increase conflict and the steps you can take to ensure your workplace is adhering to the national standard.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8270f06 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"8270f06\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-31fd569 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"31fd569\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h3><strong>That\u00a0C\u00a0Word<\/strong>\u00a0Season 1 is here (and on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/2LQxu8j8LJdbuXydXzyMRD\">Spotify<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/that-c-word\/id1592711758\">iTunes<\/a>! New episodes available bi-weekly!\u00a0<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"emoji\" role=\"img\" draggable=\"false\" src=\"https:\/\/s.w.org\/images\/core\/emoji\/17.0.2\/svg\/1f447.svg\" alt=\"\ud83d\udc47\" \/><\/h3>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6cab023 elementor-widget elementor-widget-html\" data-id=\"6cab023\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"html.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<iframe style=\"width: 100vw; max-width: 100%; height: 190px;\" src=\"https:\/\/share.zencast.fm\/embed\/episode\/569232f7-2a94-40bb-bdc8-ea708bd3b42b\" width=\"100%\" height=\"190\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless=\"true\"><\/iframe>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-dba5f4c e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"dba5f4c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a6c7e95 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"a6c7e95\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h5><strong>In this episode, we mentioned the following resources:<\/strong><\/h5>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-90d9edd hover-underline elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"90d9edd\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<ul><li><a href=\"https:\/\/mentalhealthcommission.ca\/national-standard\/\">The National Standard of Canada for Psychological Health and Safety in the Workplace<\/a><\/li><\/ul>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f8fa5a6 hover-underline elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"f8fa5a6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<ul><li aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/mailchi.mp\/be7ed6584cdf\/how-to-create-a-collaborative-workplace-lm-2021-05\">How To Create A Collaborative Workplace- A Step-by-Step Guide<\/a><\/li><\/ul>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-265fb22 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"265fb22\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div 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Please visit my\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/mist.mirasee.com\/collaborationschool\/contact\/\">Contact Page<\/a>\u00a0and let me know how I can help you today!<\/strong><\/h5>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f9fa8fb elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"f9fa8fb\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-340cc8e elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"340cc8e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h3><strong>More from That\u00a0<span 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